AllenChiu on Fri Mar 4 16:18:46 2011 said:

well I guess the frequency of kidney problems may be different in different populations (because of genetics or nutrition and other life habits).
My idea was to have huge numbers to have a statistically visible trend and don't have to depend on questionnaires with dubious answers and too small numbers, where other factors might become more important...
But you should find these trends also within a culture or even a country especially if it's as huge as China. And if you rely on couples that are married for 5-10 years you may exclude the issues pito mentioned (that are worth considering of course).

Oh yeah, something to think about: if mastrubation is bad and losing sperm (when mastrubating) would be bad (according to some religions)... then how come men will "auto-ejaculate" when then dont mastrubate after a while?

The body will get rid of the excess of sperm by just "peeing" it out ... a lot of people dont accept this or deny this.. its a fact.. well proven....

Sperm is made 24/7 and if you dont have sex or mastrubate, the body will get rid of the sperm....

pito on Fri Mar 4 16:32:09 2011 said:

I'm afraid that constantly empty of the storage of sperm will generate some signals to sperm stem cell(I forget how to spell) to make them hyperproliferate,which may do harm to them..

AllenChiu on Fri Mar 4 16:38:33 2011 said:

You are talking about once a day!!!
Dont worry......

Your Leydig cells and sertolli cells can handle it!

Its only when you start doing it more and especiallhy when you start doing it because you cant stop (you need it) that you have a problem. But again: its more a mental problem then a physical problem.

ok here's the report of the paper: http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20090127/masturbation-and-prostate-cancer-risk sorry, I've no access to BJU Int....but it's a questionnaire based research study so I don't know how reliable or how "truthful" the subjects were......not exactly the kidneys but close enough....and this thread is so uhm...surreal....

AllenChiu on Fri Mar 4 03:27:21 2011 said:

You can always refer to chinese herbal medicine shop...

AllenChiu on Fri Mar 4 13:10:01 2011 said:

Masturbation model of mouse?
I saw a masturbation dog in the movie "Due Date"...

The consequence of having addicted to masturbation (too frequent): I remember I had read somewhere that you might find difficulties in ejaculation and maintain erection when you are having real sex later. This is because vagina tightness can never bear your hand's strength, and since you are get used to the "tightness" strength, you will find difficult in archiving orgasm in real sex. This is not only bad for you, and this is also unfair for your partner as well. No article to cite here, but I remember read it in some of the health articles. I will search for you when I have some free time.

If "the person" (not meaning to say you) stop watching or thinking of porno, and focus on work and such bad habits can be forgotten. Just imagine you are having 20 genes to be clones, and 20 protein expressions to do and optimized, 5 papers to due in one month, troubleshooting your PCR etc and learn a new programming language for you to solve bioinformatics problem... you definitely do not have time, even just to think about masturbation.

This is too easy to explain it or help someone with such a problem.....

They call it an addiction because (if you mastrubate too much and if you cant handle it) you just cant stop it... Its with any other addiction (like playing pc games or...) your job, life will suffer and you cant just say: "oh , just focus on work, get more work"... It doesnt work like this. You cant solve the problem (doing less and less for you job, life etc) by telling someone he has to do more of what he or she doenst....
People with strong addictions need propper and professional help.
(not saying this is the case, but just replying to what you said about how to solve the problem).

pito on Fri Mar 4 20:51:58 2011 said:

But those are only Adrian's suggestions....I guess if you have to clone and express 20 genes and write 5 papers in a month, then learn bioinformatic crap....when will you have time nor the energy to do it...unless you're Ubermensch ..and I think by now, AllenChiu has already realised (after so many times you've stressed it) that he's not overdoing it...

pito on Fri Mar 4 16:41:27 2011 said:

“ Leydig cells and sertolli cells ...”
It seems you know a lot things of them,have you attent some course on this and what's the name of that course ?

pito on Fri Mar 4 20:51:58 2011 said:

Haha Pito, I do agree with you. Is always easy to be said than done. The reason I suggest this is because I got similar experience. Previously I was very much addicted in playing DOTA (Defense of The Ancient), at least 6 hours daily, with occasionally playing poker online, till the extend I even forget to take food, abandoned my social life, neglected my health and even not cutting my hair for 4 months, doesn't care if my body stinks, and of course I seldom do my laundry and wear the same clothes for entire week...
Till I join grad school and begin my research project; life changes. I have to do lots of reading, searching papers, troubleshooting experiments and frequent Bioforum . Sometimes I even stay in lab for more than 18 hours and end up in failed experiment, for my past 2 years and still counting.

Although I do occasionally play dota to release my tension, but I would say I had minimized and my addiction to just once a week and not more than 2 hours per time. Perhaps, by focusing on more on your work productivity, I think , based on my experience, can be used to reduce addictions.

But then, I do agree with you Pito, a professional help should be sought as is the best solution (with $$ of course). Else, try my "free advice" with no guarantee.

casandra on Fri Mar 4 22:01:14 2011 said:

Hmn... I had cloned more than 10 genes, now expressing 10 of it, writing 2 papers currently and my boss is still chasing me, and learning molecular docking and biomolecular modelling now...
Really, I wish to be Ubermensch...