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Will masturbation be harmful to health? - According to traditional Chinese medicine,it will. (Mar/02/2011 )

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AllenChiu on Fri Mar 4 13:10:01 2011 said:


pito on Fri Mar 4 09:23:38 2011 said:


AllenChiu on Fri Mar 4 03:27:21 2011 said:


adrian kohsf on Thu Mar 3 19:20:28 2011 said:


pito on Thu Mar 3 12:06:08 2011 said:


LOL, if you mastrubate maybe 10 times a day or more?
Chinese also eat all kinds of crap to improve their sex drive.. Do you think it will work? I mean: eatings sharkfins (and destroying the sharkpopulations) or testicles from I dunno what animal also improve your sexlife according to their traditions.....
There is nothing wrong with using herbs and stuff that do work (some stuff does work, a lot of medicins are made from herbs etc), but pls, dont believe everything....
Besides not only chinese traditional medicine tells this: christians (real "believers") also say that mastrubation is bad and will send you to hell.... and I think muslims also believe something like this, not sure on that however.
And what has the kidney to do with having sex?
Weird question anyway :huh:

The animal organ is tiger's penis.
Chinese medicine believe kidney have to do with sex efficiency... bad kidney low libido... if I heard correctly...

where did you hear that?can you give me a link to the original article?


It would suprise me they have "articles" on all those things they believe...
I mean: I can write an article claiming that some dog is the reincarnation of god.. would you believe that?


Are you using traditional chinese medicin? And where did you question come from? Are you having problems or making a paper or thesis on this subject?

Yes I have a problem about this.
I guess I'm suffering from some consequence of frequent masturbation like 1 time per day(maybe because I'm a genetically weak person to stand for this,by the way I'm a Chinese,LOL)
And yes I want to scientifically prove this whole thing if it is possible.
I'm major in biology.I once wondered that if it is possible to establish some masturbation model of mouse.Do you have any clue at all?haha


I dont think its possible you can suffer form mastrubating once a day....

Very weird discussion is this.

-pito-

Maybe you should try to masturbate 5-10 times per day and then compare. I dont know if you will get ill (maybe somekind of sores...), but I am sure you will have, at least, one really strong arm!.....

-laurequillo-

laurequillo on Fri Mar 4 14:34:40 2011 said:


Maybe you should try to masturbate 5-10 times per day and then compare. I dont know if you will get ill (maybe somekind of sores...), but I am sure you will have, at least, one really strong arm!.....

:lol:....or calluses...my gosh, this isn't exactly topic for a tea party and polite conversation...but this here is a science forum so yup, we discuss the science...actually, there was a study I read before..have to look for it though correlating auto-eroticism (the big M) with prostate cancer incidence....and yup, what exactly are the physiological/pathological effects if you do it frequently...the psychology- there's a long history of it and in the animal kingdom as well...even Freud discussed it....but physiologically? seriously...dehydration? hypertrophy of the accessory glands? :)

-casandra-

i don't know about mouse models, but electroejaculation has been tested on bulls for long time

check this paper for reference

also for pig semen extraction there are pheromones you can use on an artificial female pig, you can imagine the rest...

-toejam-

What I know from what I studied is that the only problem mastrubation can give is a physical problem: if you mastrubate too much, you can get physical pain... but then you allready need to mastrubate a lot more then once a day.

(+ off course people that are addicted to it and need to do it X times a day have a mental problem too and their lives can suffer from it).

But those things are all exeptions and only apply to those that do it way more then once a day.


And no: there are no problems for the glands or what so ever.. the only problem is the physical pain people might suffer if they do it too often.

-pito-

toejam on Fri Mar 4 15:12:32 2011 said:


i don't know about mouse models, but electroejaculation has been tested on bulls for long time

check this paper for reference

also for pig semen extraction there are pheromones you can use on an artificial female pig, you can imagine the rest...

LOl

Electroejaculation is also used for humans.... :lol:
Nothing special.

Same with the pig thing: they use that on bulls too or other animals.

-pito-

this topic reminds me of scary movie.... if the guy in the wheelchair auto-eroticised himself too much he would definitely have back and neck problems :lol:

-toejam-

it's also part of the 1968 Barbarella film...called the excessive Machine.

And if there are effects, shouldn't they be detectable with statistically differences between populations where it is prohibited and tabooed (with less kidney problems) and liberal populations (with more problems)? And also between populations with lots of single people (e.g. western populations, that are often more liberal) and populations where more or less all persons marry early (which often have more strict and traditional mindsets, too)?
No need to torture poor lab animals...just check the statistics for correlations... ;)

-hobglobin-

hobglobin on Fri Mar 4 15:39:15 2011 said:


it's also part of the 1968 Barbarella film...called the excessive Machine.

And if there are effects, shouldn't they be detectable with statistically differences between populations where it is prohibited and tabooed (with less kidney problems) and liberal populations (with more problems)? And also between populations with lots of single people (e.g. western populations, that are often more liberal) and populations where more or less all persons marry early (which often have more strict and traditional mindsets, too)?
No need to torture poor lab animals...just check the statistics for correlations... ;)


Yeah, but the problem is that what you mention has some problems:

- some research has shown that in marriage people have less sex compared then outside marriage(=bachelors, in the long run) + during marriage men tend to mastrubate more often then those not in marriage
- the more strict cultures where mastrubation is taboo often also have a certain taboo on having too much sex=> sex is only acceptable when you want to reproduce...
- doing research on this subject is hard: people always tell other things....



And if you think about it: how can mastrubation be bad and sex not then?

-pito-

toejam on Fri Mar 4 15:12:32 2011 said:


i don't know about mouse models, but electroejaculation has been tested on bulls for long time

check this paper for reference

also for pig semen extraction there are pheromones you can use on an artificial female pig, you can imagine the rest...

Thank you for the paper.
You mean the male pig will shot just when they smell the odour of pheromone?if it is some odour.
Then the male pig must have strong ability of imagination~

-AllenChiu-
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