male/female ratio - Chit Chat

male/female ratio - how many men or women? (Mar/31/2009 )

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lab rat on Nov 24 2009, 08:43 AM said:

casandra on Jul 13 2009, 09:01 PM said:

And I really wonder how people and esp guys would react if they are faced with such an assertive, aggressive or demanding woman? Would they be more inclined to help her out (if she needs any help) or would it be a turn-off? Would she have earned respect and admiration or instead provoke the raising of defense barriers?

@ casandra: As an assertive, aggressive woman, I can answer these questions based on my experiences. My experiences may or may not be typical.

No. I get along just fine with men on a personal, equal basis. Men at work are a different matter. I have pointed out problems (and provided my sources for recommended corrections), have spoken my mind, and have defended my position to men in a position of power--and have been berated for being insubordinate, difficult to work with, etc. I was chewed out by one boss because I declined to be his graduate student, even though I had no interest in his field of study. (It was just a paycheck.) He also said, "You make your own way." It was not a compliment.

Would she be treated any differently since she doesn't fit the stereotypical image we have of how women shld behave?

Yes. I am a 'troublemaker' and 'hot-headed', just because I take exception to being "owned." Working for a man does not entitle him to making my career decisions for me. This is not female chauvanism; I would take exception to a woman doing the same.

Working for your BOSS (male or female) entitles him/her to make decisions and to expect you to follow them. If you cannot, get out of the lab. Furthermore, if you are his grad student, then he expects you to act like one.

Working for a boss (male or female) DOES entitle him to make decisions about what you do at work. Now get back to work.....

-StevieRay-

StevieRay on Nov 24 2009, 11:14 AM said:

I believe that you may not have read my post correctly. No boss has the right to force you to be their advisee, or to make decisions regarding your graduate program if you decline them.

I have not disclosed a lot of information in this post for confidentiality reasons. Refrain from making inflammatory remarks, please.

-lab rat-

I think you may have misunderstood her posting.

-aimikins-

well i m not a PhD student.. i work in the biopharmaceitics in the analytics
In my previous company.. my head was a lady... a very very inefficient one!!! as lab members we weer 5 scientists, 4 males and 1 females and rest of the break up was like 10 males and 15 females.. ya a huge department!!!!
The males sometimes do seem to be more assertive and proactive but i found that the females except my Head (tat laeves only that 1 scientist) had a very very cool head and very knowledgeble and patient!!!
Also the efficiency was moer when more guys were working than the ladies.. but may be for obvious reasons like staying back late and all..
In all i thought it was balanced and any gender did not play a role in the productivity!!!

-Pradeep Iyer-

Lets see, around 14 female and 6 male students in my biotech class :|

-metaltemujin-

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