How to store PAGE gel and keep the bands after gel is run? - (Aug/10/2006 )
Does anyone have experience with this?
So our digital imaging system is down, for an unspecified time period...I am about to go on vacation...I have a gel (standard 12% PAGE) that I REALLY need to photograph. It has been sitting in water in the 4C for 9 days (since the imager went down). I will be gone for 10 days. is it OK to just leave it in the fridge? will the bands still show up after a total of about 3 weeks?
I am considering placing it in 1X running buffer...has anyone tried this before?
thanks for any replies
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hi i left my gel in water for about a month once when the gel doc was down. i could still see my bands at the end of it though they were a little fainter after that long. so i guess its ok.
soraya
is it coomassie staining?
the safer would be to put it in acetic acid methanol again (the destaining solution).
This would not allow the proteins to diffuse, or am I wrong?
actually, I guess I should have given more detail...it is stained with biosafe coomassie (biorad), the destain is only H2O.
thanks for answering! it looks like I should be OK, I got a nice whopping band...it's the fractions from a his-tag purification of a rProtein that may need to be published. I have thought that if it fades I can repeat the purification, although that would a pain. if I had known the doc system was going down, I would have saved the fractions and just repeated the gel at a later date
oh well
thanks again for the replies
I think it should be OK.
It didn't become blurred for one week? so why would it disappear in one more week?
I would let it in water.
by the way, why don't you dry your precious gels?
you put your gel between two wet cellophane films. you can either dry with a vacuum heater (I don't like it for precious gels because you see plenty of dots, I mean the surface is not smooth anymore) or you can use a gel air drying system. My favorite.
http://www.bio-rad.com/B2B/BioRad/product/...vel=Lit+Request
we have access to the owl drying system. however, no matter how carefully you soak it, sometimes they still curl and/or crack. I will look into the system you suggested, it seems much better.
I think another week or so probalby won't hurt it. I just wasn't sure if other people had tried it.
We keep our gels (tris-glycine, tris-tricine, fixed and coomasie stained) in ddH2O at +4degC for months without any problems (no band diffusion).
You may dry your gel on a whatmann paper and cover it with food wrap and put them in the drying system with a little heat.
Never curl and never crack.
Or call another institute or department...whether you can use their digital imaging system.
I hope this may help.
I think another week or so probalby won't hurt it. I just wasn't sure if other people had tried it.
tris tricine gels break.
so I use a drying solution.
3% glycerol and 10 % ethanol.
I soak the gel few minutes and wet the cellophane films in this solution.
If you soak the gel in this solution for long time, its size will reduce.
It didn't become blurred for one week? so why would it disappear in one more week?
I would let it in water.
by the way, why don't you dry your precious gels?
you put your gel between two wet cellophane films. you can either dry with a vacuum heater (I don't like it for precious gels because you see plenty of dots, I mean the surface is not smooth anymore) or you can use a gel air drying system. My favorite.
1. occasionally you might get spots of fungal growth on the gel when left in water, or even in acetic acid.
2. i do the cellophane trick myself, and its excellent, also because once dried between the cellophane you can then photograph it later as well. moreover, some such specimens i use for my post graduate teaching programme and place them directly on top of the overhead projector fora full blown projection. one other thing, i don't use any dryer. i just clip it on the sides over a glass plate with binder clips.
i know i am late with this, and by now, aimikins should be getting back from his vacation. but nevertheless...
- viv