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I did something stupid - 10 mM dNTPs vs 2.5 mM dNTPs (Sep/29/2008 )

Hi All,

So, I ran out of a Green Master Mix that had been spoon-feeding me adequate results. However, in an attempt to be thrifty, I rummaged through our stores and found the individual components that make it up (5x Green (or Colorless) Rxn Buffer, dNTPs, Taq, etc.) Well, thinking I'd make a whole to batch from scratch, I used all of the buffer and with it, instead of using 2.5 mM dNTP mix as my 'recipe' called for, I used 10 mM dNTP mix. I didn't figure this out until I ran a gel and got NOTHING. NADA. (Except for some beautiful ladders) I imagine my dNTPs are chelating all of the Mg++ (what do you think?) and I was wondering if anyone knew of any way I could rescue this concoction, since, at the moment, I have no additional Rxn Buffer (other than what is in my failed batch)? Could I theoretically add enough MgCl2 to make the system work again? Or will I run into an upper limit before that?

This stinks.

Thanks to everyone. Cheers...
Synthasome

-Synthasome-

Find out what the reaction buffer is, make some at 1x, and add three parts of it for each part of your 4x mix. Add Taq and Mg to suit.

-HomeBrew-

QUOTE (Synthasome @ Sep 29 2008, 08:03 PM)
Hi All,

So, I ran out of a Green Master Mix that had been spoon-feeding me adequate results. However, in an attempt to be thrifty, I rummaged through our stores and found the individual components that make it up (5x Green (or Colorless) Rxn Buffer, dNTPs, Taq, etc.) Well, thinking I'd make a whole to batch from scratch, I used all of the buffer and with it, instead of using 2.5 mM dNTP mix as my 'recipe' called for, I used 10 mM dNTP mix. I didn't figure this out until I ran a gel and got NOTHING. NADA. (Except for some beautiful ladders) I imagine my dNTPs are chelating all of the Mg++ (what do you think?) and I was wondering if anyone knew of any way I could rescue this concoction, since, at the moment, I have no additional Rxn Buffer (other than what is in my failed batch)? Could I theoretically add enough MgCl2 to make the system work again? Or will I run into an upper limit before that?

This stinks.

Thanks to everyone. Cheers...
Synthasome


You are probably right, the dNTP is probably chelating all the MgCl2. Could you get / buy / make more Rxn buffer? You are going to do more PCRs right? So you might as well make a bigger stock of Master mix at the correct concentration.

You could increase the MgCl2 as you have suggested until the system starts working again. But that would take a few trials. I am unsure how the Taq will react at high concentrations of Mg2+ ions.


-perneseblue-