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Can i use same RE to check for insert? - blunt end cloning (Sep/16/2008 )

Hi,

I had pcDNA 3.1 vector and I cloned in my gene of interest, checked the insert was there and in the right direction etc. I have also blunt end cloned in an EGFP reporter gene. I digested the pcDNA 3.1 vector with smaI and my EGFP insert with NruI (klenowed filled & cleaned up both etc) and then ligated the insert and vector (10:1) and transformed into XL Blue cells. All worked fine. I now want to check if my EGFP insert is in the colonies and in the right direction. I have miniprep'd some of the colonies and re-digested with nruI, the restriction enzyme i used for my insert. When I ran the digest on 1% agarose gel I got 2.4kb fragment (size of my insert) and a larger fragment (rest of vector I assume as pcDNA3.1 only has 1 nruI site) in a couple of the colonies. Does this mean my EGFP insert is there? I wasnt entirely sure if using nruI to check was the right thing to do.

Thanks in advance!

-moorele-

NruI
TCG | CGA
AGC | GCT

SmaI
CCC | GGG
GGG | CCC

Both the SmaI and NruI sites are destroyed in the ligation reaction. NruI is not a very good diagnostic digest. I would suggest that you use some other enzyme to verify and orientate the insert.

-perneseblue-

It would be easier to choose a PCR primer on your insert and a primer on your vector and check presence and the size of the amplicon.

-phage434-

Great thanks!!! Will try both smile.gif

-moorele-

Hi sorry to bother you again... i just looked over my protocol and realised I did it slightly different than i mentioned above.

I digested my pcDNA 3.1 vector with gene inserted with AflII and klenow filled. Then to take my EGFP insert from another vector I digested with SalI & klenow filled. I then digested this with NruI and gel isolated my 2.4kb fragment. This 2.4kb fragment was then ligated with the pcDNA3.1 vector i previously digested with SalI & transformed, miniprep'd etc...

Does this change anything? Do i still have to use a different enzyme/ primer to amplify?

-moorele-

If I am looking at this correctly you are ligation a Vector-AlfII klenow blunt ended to a SalI(klenow blunt end) - insert-NruI . This reaction should kill the NruI site. Do you have a plasmid manager to keep track of your plasmid construction such as VectorNTI?

I would suggest that you use some other enzyme.

-perneseblue-

Nope dont have plasmid manager to keep track of the construction. I'm going to look at sequence and see which restriction sites are upstream & downstream of my insert & try go with another enzyme! Will keep u posted! Thanks again!

-moorele-

QUOTE (moorele @ Sep 22 2008, 11:39 AM)
Nope dont have plasmid manager to keep track of the construction. I'm going to look at sequence and see which restriction sites are upstream & downstream of my insert & try go with another enzyme! Will keep u posted! Thanks again!


I would strongly recommend your lab get one. It makes life a lot easier. VectorNTI is free. It can be tricky following all the restriction sites when you are building a plasmid.

-perneseblue-


QUOTE
I would strongly recommend your lab get one. It makes life a lot easier. VectorNTI is free. It can be tricky following all the restriction sites when you are building a plasmid.



Ok will definitely try download that! Thanks again!!

-moorele-