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Big protein - (Nov/27/2006 )

I want to detect the activation (phosphorylated form) of a big protein (460kDa) by western blot.
I have been working with smaller proteins (about 60kDa) and in that case I have had good results loading 50 ug protein in 10% pre-cast gels that I transfered at 70V for 1 hr.
In this case I am using a 5% acrylamide pre-cast gel, added SDS to the transfer buffer and transfered (in a tank system, nitrocellulose membrane) one hour at 100V, but my Ponceau S staining is very bad and even I got bands I can not be sure those difference are real or just a transfer problem.
I would appreciate any suggestions.

-Carmen-

QUOTE (Carmen @ Nov 27 2006, 04:33 PM)
I want to detect the activation (phosphorylated form) of a big protein (460kDa) by western blot.
I have been working with smaller proteins (about 60kDa) and in that case I have had good results loading 50 ug protein in 10% pre-cast gels that I transfered at 70V for 1 hr.
In this case I am using a 5% acrylamide pre-cast gel, added SDS to the transfer buffer and transfered (in a tank system, nitrocellulose membrane) one hour at 100V, but my Ponceau S staining is very bad and even I got bands I can not be sure those difference are real or just a transfer problem.
I would appreciate any suggestions.


may try to transfer at lower voltage and longer time, ie, 40V for 8hr at 4degree.

Hope this help.

-Minnie Mouse-

hi,

For larger proteins I always transfer overnight at 35 V (using Biorad system)
followed by 100V for 1 hr the next morning. This works exceptionally well.
I have had alot of problems trying to detect large proteins after a one hour
transfer.

-mikew-

Thank you Minnie Mouse and Minkew. I will tray the over night transfer (crossing my fingers).
I have another question. Since this is a big protein, the running conditions should also be modified? I usually run the gels at 100V until the loading dye reaches de bottom. Should I run the gel a lower voltage to improve the separation and get all the protein leave the wall?.
Thank you. smile.gif

-Carmen-

Can you give me the complete protocol and buffers that you use to transfer your large proteins, please?
Thanks a lot

-ARIANA-

a 24h RT semidrytransfert gave e the best results for a 250kD protein on nitrocellulose membrane. Didn't tried with PVDF membrane.
I think you should follow your migration by prestained marker and let more migration than just the blue reaches the end of gel. Generally, it means that for a 8cmresolving minigel, the 250kD protein is just 4-5mm below the stacking. So i gues maybe a 400kD just entered the gel.
Moreover, transferts are generally of little lower efficiency at borders of the gel.

-fred_33-

QUOTE (Carmen @ Nov 28 2006, 01:33 AM)
I want to detect the activation (phosphorylated form) of a big protein (460kDa) by western blot.
I have been working with smaller proteins (about 60kDa) and in that case I have had good results loading 50 ug protein in 10% pre-cast gels that I transfered at 70V for 1 hr.
In this case I am using a 5% acrylamide pre-cast gel, added SDS to the transfer buffer and transfered (in a tank system, nitrocellulose membrane) one hour at 100V, but my Ponceau S staining is very bad and even I got bands I can not be sure those difference are real or just a transfer problem.
I would appreciate any suggestions.


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