IRA online - (Jan/31/2010 )
One fine day I had to find them: Have a look 
lol
I really dont understand people that are anti-animal testing...
I can understand that if there are alternatives, you should use them... but heck: do they really want that all medicin etc is tested on humans?
LOL...
True enough. Same thing happen in Malaysia.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...&sec=nation
They can protest animal testing, without knowing many drugs and medicine they used in their medication were animal tested.
They should have stop their children getting into University as well, this is because usually universities does equipped with animal testing lab.....LOL... petiton for anti-university, anti-postgrads???
Okey, did they suggest alternatives rather than just protest?
LOL
I think you guys should read the disclaimer on the IRA site...
HomeBrew on Jun 15 2010, 02:25 AM said:
Anyway: I am sure there are websites like that without this kind of disclaimer.. and thats just sad.
of course it's parody...and some or many of the "real" animal rights activists are imo "reality satires" and their actions too (and some even more harmful to animals than any experiment).
Anyway, for an entomologist it's interesting that only vertebrates (according to laws), and often only cute vertebrates (for animal rights activists) are debated and meant...I'm quite sure that insects (or worms, or crustaceans, or molluscs, or...) also feel pain.
hobglobin on Jun 16 2010, 02:56 PM said:
Anyway, for an entomologist it's interesting that only vertebrates (according to laws), and often only cute vertebrates (for animal rights activists) are debated and meant...I'm quite sure that insects (or worms, or crustaceans, or molluscs, or...) also feel pain.
a parody? and I was wondering why you posted it here...
...and insects feeling pain? I thought that there's a general consensus among scientists that they don't ....that's why they are not protected by legislature.... casandra on Jun 16 2010, 10:57 PM said:
hobglobin on Jun 16 2010, 02:56 PM said:
Anyway, for an entomologist it's interesting that only vertebrates (according to laws), and often only cute vertebrates (for animal rights activists) are debated and meant...I'm quite sure that insects (or worms, or crustaceans, or molluscs, or...) also feel pain.
a parody? and I was wondering why you posted it here...
...and insects feeling pain? I thought that there's a general consensus among scientists that they don't ....that's why they are not protected by legislature....well then I'd have posted it in the Animal and Zoology section and not in the Lab joke section here
and I guess more or less all animals feel pain...
IMO the question is how they realise it i.e. if it's a unpleasant, annoying feeling (as we consider/feel it) or if it's just an information like e.g. a cold temperature perception...but this is a neuro-physiological and philosophical question...
hobglobin on Jun 16 2010, 05:09 PM said:
casandra on Jun 16 2010, 10:57 PM said:
hobglobin on Jun 16 2010, 02:56 PM said:
Anyway, for an entomologist it's interesting that only vertebrates (according to laws), and often only cute vertebrates (for animal rights activists) are debated and meant...I'm quite sure that insects (or worms, or crustaceans, or molluscs, or...) also feel pain.
a parody? and I was wondering why you posted it here...
...and insects feeling pain? I thought that there's a general consensus among scientists that they don't ....that's why they are not protected by legislature....well then I'd have posted it in the Animal and Zoology section and not in the Lab joke section here
and I guess more or less all animals feel pain...
IMO the question is how they realise it i.e. if it's a unpleasant, annoying feeling (as we consider/feel it) or if it's just an information like e.g. a cold temperature perception...but this is a neuro-physiological and philosophical question...
...we can make it one.....ok then...what do you think of this? casandra on Jun 16 2010, 11:14 PM said:
hobglobin on Jun 16 2010, 05:09 PM said:
casandra on Jun 16 2010, 10:57 PM said:
hobglobin on Jun 16 2010, 02:56 PM said:
Anyway, for an entomologist it's interesting that only vertebrates (according to laws), and often only cute vertebrates (for animal rights activists) are debated and meant...I'm quite sure that insects (or worms, or crustaceans, or molluscs, or...) also feel pain.
a parody? and I was wondering why you posted it here...
...and insects feeling pain? I thought that there's a general consensus among scientists that they don't ....that's why they are not protected by legislature....well then I'd have posted it in the Animal and Zoology section and not in the Lab joke section here
and I guess more or less all animals feel pain...
IMO the question is how they realise it i.e. if it's a unpleasant, annoying feeling (as we consider/feel it) or if it's just an information like e.g. a cold temperature perception...but this is a neuro-physiological and philosophical question...
...we can make it one.....ok then...what do you think of this?will read it later...but I forgot it's not only pain, but the "right to live" etc, some activists want to concede to all animals...but then why not all organisms anyway?