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Tips - how to find a promoter sequence - (Jun/08/2005 )

hi

we can find promoter in a simple way .
take the mRNA of the gene of interest and take the first 60 or more basepairs and blast it with the whole genome of the organism .
the hit having plus plus and 100 % similarity , click on the hit .
in this way either the gene map or the genbank flat file will come .
from the map we can see where there is 100% blast hit ..take some 1500 bp before it and some bp after that .
in the flat file u can take also same bp as in the blast hit the sbjct is shown from where it has 100% similarity .so u take some 1500 bp before that and some base pairs after that.
than take that seq and align with the portions of mRNA that u had taken in clustalW .take the regions before the alignment . as the regions are before the TSS it is the promoter region.
cheers

-ruchita_sweet-

Yes, sometimes promoter search is a pain. Since not every promoter has been experimentally characterized and thus has a promoter sequence in the GenBank database. Even there is a promoter sequence for a particular gene deposited by researchers, the NCBI entrez search tool is TOO stupid to return it to you. In this case you can follow ruchita_sweet's method to fish it out. NCBI should ask Google to do the job and should also annotate promoter sequences as they have done with refseq.

-sage-

QUOTE (sage @ Jun 8 2005, 08:46 PM)
Yes, sometimes promoter search is a pain. Since not every promoter has been experimentally characterized and thus has a promoter sequence in the GenBank database. Even there is a promoter sequence for a particular gene deposited by researchers, the NCBI entrez search tool is TOO stupid to return it to you. In this case you can follow ruchita_sweet's method to fish it out. NCBI should ask Google to do the job and should also annotate promoter sequences as they have done with refseq.


ENSEMBL has already done the job. You can download upstream or even downstram sequences for any gene using the Ensmart system.

http://www.ensembl.org/Multi/martview

-cip-

EZRetrieve ( http://siriusb.umdnj.edu:18080/EZRetrieve/index.jsp ) can do the job. also check Adnan's page:
http://arep.med.harvard.edu/labgc/adnan/hsmmupstream/

One thing I want to point out is that for human, promoter can be 20 kb upstream, most people take 4kb upstream to be safe, some take 2kb + downstream 100 bp. When dealing with individual genes should be cautious, large scale is ok.

-cyberpostdoc-

QUOTE (cyberpostdoc @ Jul 1 2005, 01:06 PM)
EZRetrieve ( http://siriusb.umdnj.edu:18080/EZRetrieve/index.jsp )  can do the job. also check Adnan's page:
http://arep.med.harvard.edu/labgc/adnan/hsmmupstream/

One thing I want to point out is that for human, promoter can be 20 kb upstream, most people take 4kb upstream to be safe, some take 2kb + downstream 100 bp. When dealing with individual genes should be cautious, large scale is ok.

Hi does anybody know of a free site for analysing, naming/identifiying cis-acting binding sites in promoter regions? it would be really helpful. sad.gif

-ajp-