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if someone could help me clear the difference between hep-2 & hep-G2 cell line, do both of these are hepatoma cell lines?
i have been trying to grow hep-g2 cells with 10% FBS in DMEM but cells do not stick & dont divide i have been waiting for almost a week but there seems no response. i m using 25mm sq flask, even if few cells stick it seems as if they will take years to be cofluent. plz help me to solve this problem, thanks in anticipation, bye

-pankaj-

I don't know the difference between the two cell lines. But I had cultured the two cell line. It is very weird that your cell could not attach to the wall of the plate. Are you sure that your plated is coated?

-Daniel5306-

By coated do you mean something like sarstedts cell+ (yellowcap) "for adherent cells"?

I've mainly used the standard sarstedt (red cap) flasks for cell culture and had a lot of problems growing HepG2s.

Think you might just have solved it.

Pity I that was two years ago!

Thanks

Ian

-DevGrp-

I don't know about the hep2s, but HepG2 information is listed by ATCC. Check out www.atcc.org for information on cell derivation, culture conditions, etc. About coating, although I would not expect the cell line to require this, I have grown primary rat hepatocytes and they require collagen-coated plates. biggrin.gif Good luck.

-LabGirl-

Some primary cells need it, some don't. We used gelatin for HUVECS but nothing for human primary breast or endometrial epithelial cells.

-DevGrp-

I have had problems growing HepG2 cell line. They do not grow very well as a monolayer, instead they tend to clump up. I use only T-25 plates and not any coated plates. Can anybody tell me how to avoid this problem?

I have had similar problems with MCF7, at low passage numbers (from ATCC), but as the passage number increases, they grow as monolayer than as clumps.

Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.

-kalyani-

QUOTE (pankaj @ Dec 15 2004, 07:04 AM)
if someone could help me clear the difference between hep-2 & hep-G2 cell line, do both of these are hepatoma cell lines?
  i have been trying to grow hep-g2 cells with 10% FBS in DMEM but cells do not stick & dont divide i have been waiting for almost a week but there seems no response. i m using 25mm sq flask, even if few cells stick it seems as if they will take years to be cofluent. plz help me to solve this problem, thanks in anticipation, bye

Hi!
HEp-2 is a cell line derived from HeLa (they were are contamination in an originally hepatic cell line --> see ATCC for details) and so are a cervix carcinoma cell line, most useful, because they have a rather big nucleus.
HEP-G2 are hepatic cells.

So, if you need liver cells, HEp-2 are a bad choice!

If you need attached HEP-G2, just use poly-L-lysine to coat your dishes, that works quite well!

I hope, this helped...

Best wishes, Gerhard

-Osiris-gdw-

HEP-G2 are as clumpy as hell, that's just the way they grow. You'll see that a thinly-seeded culture will tend to show the cells forming piles or mounds as they grow, rather than making nice monolayers - and even when they get confluent, the cell are still very piled-up. They are also !very! adherent, so trypsinisation will take longer than you might expect.

The kind of plastics you use can really make a difference - our stores regularly change our supplier of culture flasks for a cheaper option (without telling us), then change back real fast as the complaints flood in from all the users. Makes a big difference, so if your cells aren't attaching, you could try using flasks fom a different supplier. Your culture conditions sound okay, are you adding L-glutamine to 4 mM (I don't care if the media is supposed to have this already, it goes off so fast you should probably try this, and excess L-glut won't harm the cells anyway so no loss)? Lack of L-glut in media generally causes highish levels of apoptosis - particularly with cancer-derived cell lines - plus cells don't attach well and grow very slowly.

You shouldn't need any coating to grow HEP-G2, if the plastic's okay and you're using the correct media.

Ditto for MCF-7. Different cells grow in different ways, some are very clumpy early on, then start making nice monolayers as they get more confluent, others display the opposite. Generally, I don't make any descision about a cell line taken from liquid nitrogen for 2-3 splits, because it's only by then that you can decide if it's behaving 'normally'. MCF-7 is a clumpy cell line (when trypsinised), but will spread out to monolayers until it gets near confluency, at which point masses of cells will detach and float...and the remainder will get stickier than ever. You want to make sure you split 'em regularly, and don't let 'em get confluent before you do so. If you really need non-clumped MCF-7s, best strategy is to split 'em 1:10 last thing the night before you need 'em then detach 'em first thing next morning - should be pretty non-clumpy.

-Hooly-

I have had the same experience as Hooly. I have grown HepG2 cells for years and every time I try to start growing them I have problems.
The majority of cells die or don´t divide normally.
The seeding need to be done very carefully, because if you put too much cells, they´re already forming 'mini-livers' after couple of days and you can´t separate them anymore. However, if you put too few cells there, they´ll stop dividing and eventually die.

I´d advice you to start with new cells. I have grown them in filttered 75cm2 flasks. Seed them twice a week, but only 1:2 or 1:3. And use the appropriate medium (ATCC).

Hope it works!

-Joana-

Hello!

I am culturing HepG2 for several years now and I newer had any serious problems with them.
They grow well on normal tissue ware and there is abolutely no need for coatings (even not when grown on glass cover slips)

However, I detected some limitations:
1. They do not like Pen/Strep in the medium. Whenever I enclosed it, they stopped growing.
So I rather culture the HepG2s w/o any Antibiotics . ph34r.gif
2. Sometimes when these cells were passaged too many times they form a lot of vacuoles
and do not look too healthy anymore. So discard old HepG2s! huh.gif
3. You may not expect that there will be a confluent monolayer. They stop proliferating before!
So split them when they look like 80% confluent.

Unfortunately what I do not know and would be really interested in:
Has anybody successfully transfected these cell line?
If yes, I would appreciate any help!


Bye,
Stefan

-steh-fan-

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