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Blunt end ligation problem - (Dec/02/2008 )

Here is my problem guys,

I am trying a ligation, one blunt end and one sticky end. I cut my pSec vector with Nhe I and EcoRV to produce a 7.8 Kb ligation vector. Also I cut another plasmid with the same two restriction enzymes to produce the insert which is 1.4 Kb. I gel purified all these pieces. My ligation reaction mixture is as follows.

Vector (25 ng)
Insert (13 ng) to give 1:3 Vector : Insert ratio
d water
Quick ligase buffer 5 uL
Quick ligase 0.5 uL
Total reaction volume = 10 uL

I tried this 16 hrs at 16 C, 5 min at 25 C
Also 2 hrs at 25 C
I tried 1:10 Vector:Insert ratio again at 16 C

Still I do not see any colonies after transformation. I did not dephosphorylate the vector, anyway I don't think the vector religates because I don't see any colonies on my plates. the positive control grows as expected.

Suggestions regarding reaction conditions, concentrations, vector, insert ratio, or etc..etc..are appreciated.

Thanks

-kj2008-

QUOTE (kj2008 @ Dec 2 2008, 10:35 AM)
Here is my problem guys,

I am trying a ligation, one blunt end and one sticky end. I cut my pSec vector with Nhe I and EcoRV to produce a 7.8 Kb ligation vector. Also I cut another plasmid with the same two restriction enzymes to produce the insert which is 1.4 Kb. I gel purified all these pieces. My ligation reaction mixture is as follows.

Vector (25 ng)
Insert (13 ng) to give 1:3 Vector : Insert ratio
d water
Quick ligase buffer 5 uL
Quick ligase 0.5 uL
Total reaction volume = 10 uL

I tried this 16 hrs at 16 C, 5 min at 25 C
Also 2 hrs at 25 C
I tried 1:10 Vector:Insert ratio again at 16 C

Still I do not see any colonies after transformation. I did not dephosphorylate the vector, anyway I don't think the vector religates because I don't see any colonies on my plates. the positive control grows as expected.

Suggestions regarding reaction conditions, concentrations, vector, insert ratio, or etc..etc..are appreciated.

Thanks

I think increasing your vector amount to 150ng (and increasing insert amount accordingly) will help. 25 ng of vector at 8kb size is too low in my view (and experience).

-cellcounter-

I'd also increase the amount of DNA.

Are you sure your ligase is okay? It might be worth checking it... for example, linearise and gel purify a vector, then compare the number of colonies in ligase -ve and ligase +ve reactions.

Ginger

-Ginger Spice-