ChIP - a couple of Q's about real time validation - Too much background? Compare to IgG or Input? (Nov/20/2007 )
Hey hey ![]()
Sorry to bother you all again but everyone I need to talk to here at work is away sick...
Ok, so I did a real time PCR to check my ChIP products. I am using GAPDH (+ control) and MYO-D (- control) with H3K9. Looking at the amplification curves it looks like it has worked.
For GAPDH I get a CT of 23 (for H3K9) and 29 (IgG).
For MYO-D I get a CT of 29 (H3K9) and 30 (IgG).
So I'm doing these test real time PCRs to test the quality of my ChiP products before I do the chip-on-chip. My questions are:
* is the signal for IgG too high (therefore too much background?) - I used 2x10^7 cells per IP, purified with a kit, eluted in 50ul and used 1ul in PCR.
* to calculate the fold enrichment do I compare H3 to IgG or H3 to input or H3-IgG to input?
* what stats do you use to determine if your enrichment is statistically significant enough to proceed with chip-on-chip?
I hope someone can point me in the right direction, I have been reading papers for days now and can't seem to find any definitive answers. Perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong place!
Thanks in advance ![]()
Clare
Sorry to bother you all again but everyone I need to talk to here at work is away sick...
Ok, so I did a real time PCR to check my ChIP products. I am using GAPDH (+ control) and MYO-D (- control) with H3K9. Looking at the amplification curves it looks like it has worked.
For GAPDH I get a CT of 23 (for H3K9) and 29 (IgG).
For MYO-D I get a CT of 29 (H3K9) and 30 (IgG).
So I'm doing these test real time PCRs to test the quality of my ChiP products before I do the chip-on-chip. My questions are:
* is the signal for IgG too high (therefore too much background?) - I used 2x10^7 cells per IP, purified with a kit, eluted in 50ul and used 1ul in PCR.
* to calculate the fold enrichment do I compare H3 to IgG or H3 to input or H3-IgG to input?
* what stats do you use to determine if your enrichment is statistically significant enough to proceed with chip-on-chip?
I hope someone can point me in the right direction, I have been reading papers for days now and can't seem to find any definitive answers. Perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong place!
Thanks in advance
Clare
Just me again,
I *think* I don't have to worry about stats at this stage..as long as I get some kind of enrichment (ie: 5 cycles) that should be ok? And then I'll worry about the stats when I analyse my chip-chip? What do you think?
Clare