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Statistics advice please! - Mann-Whitney vs ranked data factorial ANOVA (May/28/2007 )

Hello

Big statistics crisis on my hands and could do with some help.

Basically, I have been looking at iron levels in patient and control blood samples. There is a gender bias in the sample with more men in the disease group.
This means I cannot directly compare the disease vs control groups as gender will influence the results.

So there are two categorical, independent variables (gender and disease) plus a non-parametric (no matter how I try to transform it!) dependent variable (iron level).

My question is should I:
do separate Mann-Whitney tests for the different genders?
or
rank the data and do a factorial ANOVA?
or
something else entirely (like run off to a hot country, where it isn't raining and forget all about SPSS)?

Any help much appreciated, it has taken me all weekend to get this far!

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-EmilyG-

Not easy What did you try for performing the iron levels? Normally, a ln-transformation resolves all the problems... To control for gender differences, a general linear model (ie. a two way ANOVA) would be appropriate, bit that also needs a normal distribution of data. How does your data look - you may judge by eye if it is dereived from a normally distriuted population...

-krümelmonster-

Hello

I have done logarithmic, square root and reciprocal transformations on my data. Although they improved the data there are still outliers and I have no reason to delete these data points.
Can I do linear regression models if there are outliers?

-EmilyG-

Some outliers should be no worry. I would just try if I were you and look at the goodness of fit an R² values.

-krümelmonster-

QUOTE (krümelmonster @ Jun 5 2007, 12:32 AM)
Some outliers should be no worry. I would just try if I were you and look at the goodness of fit an R² values.

Gender you can perhaps use as covariate, i.e. a effect modifier or confounding variable.

-hobglobin-