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endothelial cell isolation from mouse - using magnetic dynabeads from DYNAL (Invitrogen) (Mar/01/2007 )

Hello,

I am trying to isolate endothelial cells from the heart and the lungs of mice, that have compromised levels of the p53 tumor suppresor gene.

I am using magnetic dynabeads for the isolation technique. it is a very crude method of isolation. i extract the organ and then digest it using collagenase II and then try to mince the tissue after digestion using a cannula and then by tituration (using a syringe). I filter the crude extract and the cell suspension I get, I incubate it with the beads which I coat overnight with anti-PECAM-1 Abs. since the endothelial cells express PECAM-1 constitutively, the beads with the anti-bodies, should ideally go and bind to the cells of interest, from the cell suspension. the endothelial cell attached to the magnetic beads are recovered using a magnet.

The problem I am having is I see contamination of endothelial cells with fibroblasts and smooth muscle cells. I tried to use a different cell culture medium, which was high glucose DMEM, but without the amino acid L-valine. I add D-valine instead, since the fibroblasts cannot metabolise this form of the amino acid and hence will not survive.

But I still see fibroblast contamination.

Could someone point where I could be going wrong!!! sad.gif

pmaj

-p.maj-

Have you noted if that contaminating fibroblasts and smooth muscle cells are growing surrounding PECAM+ cells? Perhaps they still attached to endothelial cell during magnetic purifaction if digestion is not enough. Maybe if you try a different digestion method (maybe more time in Col-II) could help to obtain a pure population of endothelial cells.

Good luck!

QUOTE (p.maj @ Mar 1 2007, 07:09 AM)
Hello,

I am trying to isolate endothelial cells from the heart and the lungs of mice, that have compromised levels of the p53 tumor suppresor gene.

I am using magnetic dynabeads for the isolation technique. it is a very crude method of isolation. i extract the organ and then digest it using collagenase II and then try to mince the tissue after digestion using a cannula and then by tituration (using a syringe). I filter the crude extract and the cell suspension I get, I incubate it with the beads which I coat overnight with anti-PECAM-1 Abs. since the endothelial cells express PECAM-1 constitutively, the beads with the anti-bodies, should ideally go and bind to the cells of interest, from the cell suspension. the endothelial cell attached to the magnetic beads are recovered using a magnet.

The problem I am having is I see contamination of endothelial cells with fibroblasts and smooth muscle cells. I tried to use a different cell culture medium, which was high glucose DMEM, but without the amino acid L-valine. I add D-valine instead, since the fibroblasts cannot metabolise this form of the amino acid and hence will not survive.

But I still see fibroblast contamination.

Could someone point where I could be going wrong!!! sad.gif

pmaj

-aleruiz-

QUOTE (aleruiz @ Mar 3 2007, 12:18 AM)
Have you noted if that contaminating fibroblasts and smooth muscle cells are growing surrounding PECAM+ cells? Perhaps they still attached to endothelial cell during magnetic purifaction if digestion is not enough. Maybe if you try a different digestion method (maybe more time in Col-II) could help to obtain a pure population of endothelial cells.

Good luck!

QUOTE (p.maj @ Mar 1 2007, 07:09 AM)
Hello,

I am trying to isolate endothelial cells from the heart and the lungs of mice, that have compromised levels of the p53 tumor suppresor gene.

I am using magnetic dynabeads for the isolation technique. it is a very crude method of isolation. i extract the organ and then digest it using collagenase II and then try to mince the tissue after digestion using a cannula and then by tituration (using a syringe). I filter the crude extract and the cell suspension I get, I incubate it with the beads which I coat overnight with anti-PECAM-1 Abs. since the endothelial cells express PECAM-1 constitutively, the beads with the anti-bodies, should ideally go and bind to the cells of interest, from the cell suspension. the endothelial cell attached to the magnetic beads are recovered using a magnet.

The problem I am having is I see contamination of endothelial cells with fibroblasts and smooth muscle cells. I tried to use a different cell culture medium, which was high glucose DMEM, but without the amino acid L-valine. I add D-valine instead, since the fibroblasts cannot metabolise this form of the amino acid and hence will not survive.

But I still see fibroblast contamination.

Could someone point where I could be going wrong!!! sad.gif

pmaj




hi There,

Thanks for your input. I never ealised this could be a problem area. I will try with longer digestion periods and see how it goes. Will keep you posted.

thanks again

Pooja

-p.maj-

Hi:

I had fibroblasts contamination to some of my primary culture as well. I am trying to find a media without L-valine. Which one did you use? Could you please give me the catalog number?

Thanks!

Naixus


QUOTE (p.maj @ Mar 1 2007, 11:09 AM)
Hello,

I am trying to isolate endothelial cells from the heart and the lungs of mice, that have compromised levels of the p53 tumor suppresor gene.

I am using magnetic dynabeads for the isolation technique. it is a very crude method of isolation. i extract the organ and then digest it using collagenase II and then try to mince the tissue after digestion using a cannula and then by tituration (using a syringe). I filter the crude extract and the cell suspension I get, I incubate it with the beads which I coat overnight with anti-PECAM-1 Abs. since the endothelial cells express PECAM-1 constitutively, the beads with the anti-bodies, should ideally go and bind to the cells of interest, from the cell suspension. the endothelial cell attached to the magnetic beads are recovered using a magnet.

The problem I am having is I see contamination of endothelial cells with fibroblasts and smooth muscle cells. I tried to use a different cell culture medium, which was high glucose DMEM, but without the amino acid L-valine. I add D-valine instead, since the fibroblasts cannot metabolise this form of the amino acid and hence will not survive.

But I still see fibroblast contamination.

Could someone point where I could be going wrong!!! sad.gif

pmaj

-naixus-

Hi there,

I get the media custon made- I order the DMEM, high glucose with pyruvate, but I ask Hyclone( the company) to no add L-valine to it. so the medium had no Valine amino acid. Then I order D-valine from SIgma and add that to my media (keeping the same concentration as L-valine). I add 56.06mg per 500 mL of media. thia number I got from the formulation page of the media. You can get it from the company website, where they give you the formulations of the media.

Then I filter the media through a 20 micron filter and add the required Fetal bovine serum, sodium pyruvate, pen/strep, L-glutamine and non-essential amino acids.

D-valine cannot be metabolised by fibroblasts and hence they dont survive in the culture dish.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck

Pooja

-p.maj-

QUOTE (p.maj @ Mar 29 2007, 05:20 PM)
Hi there,

I get the media custon made- I order the DMEM, high glucose with pyruvate, but I ask Hyclone( the company) to no add L-valine to it. so the medium had no Valine amino acid. Then I order D-valine from SIgma and add that to my media (keeping the same concentration as L-valine). I add 56.06mg per 500 mL of media. thia number I got from the formulation page of the media. You can get it from the company website, where they give you the formulations of the media.

Then I filter the media through a 20 micron filter and add the required Fetal bovine serum, sodium pyruvate, pen/strep, L-glutamine and non-essential amino acids.

D-valine cannot be metabolised by fibroblasts and hence they dont survive in the culture dish.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck

Pooja


Recently some sounds came to me that the simplest way to remove fibroblast contamination is to keep your culture of primary endothelial cells at 4C for 2 hours. So fibroblast according to theie nature go in suspension but not endothelial cells. There was no problem with endothelial survival me informed. So it will be the easiest one method to remove fibroblast contamination. May be anybody had the experience with this?

-circlepoint-

Hi there,

this seems interesting.
I will definitely try to see if the 4deg C temperature can shock the fibroblasts and leave the remaining ECs healthy.

Will let you know how it works

Thanks

Pooja

-p.maj-