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Mice-Pups-Cannibalism - problem with operated mice (Jan/08/2007 )

Hi all,
does anybody of you work with small pups?Im going to do some experiments on lets say 4 days old mice, but after control run all my operated
pups were eaten by mother sad.gif I tried the trick with decreasing number of pups in cage (cost of killing going up), and also tried to preincubate 10-15 min the pup
in cage with others, before put mother. Both didnt work. Do you have any ideas or expierience with this?
Thx in advance
cheers

-lukas-

Hi Lukas,

try following:
put the pups (which you used for experiment) together with some litter of their cage (and their brothers and sisters) into your hand and let them warm-up for a few minutes. Maybe they lost their own smell, or blood heat decreased and mother could not recognize them...
Is the mother a good mum? Is it her first litter? Is it a strain where the females are not so good mothers from the very first beginning? Are there 2 females in the cage which can care for the pups or is there just one? Many questions...
If the mother has already demonstrated a successfull motherhood before, you may have success with the two things I described above.
If nothing works , try to mix the pups with some others of the same age (which differ e.g. in coat colour) and let another female take care for them.
Hope I could help you. happy.gif
bye


QUOTE (lukas @ Jan 8 2007, 05:28 PM)
Hi all,
does anybody of you work with small pups?Im going to do some experiments on lets say 4 days old mice, but after control run all my operated
pups were eaten by mother sad.gif I tried the trick with decreasing number of pups in cage (cost of killing going up), and also tried to preincubate 10-15 min the pup
in cage with others, before put mother. Both didnt work. Do you have any ideas or expierience with this?
Thx in advance
cheers

-miss_bl/6-

If you have operated on the pups then the mother is very likely to cannibalise them as mice like the taste of blood. Even an adult mouse with a wound will be licked and nibbled at by other mice, sometimes so much that that wounded mouse will die. Unfortunately I don't think there is any way around this unless you can train the mice to not go for blood.

-bob1-

May put bandage around the wound of the pups to deter their mother licking the wound, and change the dressing everyday.

-Minnie Mouse-