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PCR problems with 1,7kb fragment - (Jun/29/2006 )

I need to amplify 1,7 kb fragment from a plasmid. I confirmed the insert using restriction enzime. I use two primers of 24 (Tm= 68,8° revers) and 23 (Tm 59,8° forward) bases with this conditions:

Buffer 2 uL (1x)
dNTPs 5.7 uL (0.2 mM)
Mg++ 1.6 uL (2mM)
Primer F 0.5 uL (0,5 uM)
Primer R 0,5 uL (0,5 uM)
Taq 0,1 uL (0,5 units)
H2O csp 20 uL

95°C 5 min
95°C 1 min
72°C 2 min (Anneal and extend)
repeat 30 times
72°C 5 min

Using this protocol I didnt get the fragment, so I repeat the PCR but using 72° by 3 minutes. Again i didnt get the fragmen.

Should I use a lower Temp for annel?... I mean, something like 64°C
Sholud I increse time of extend?
Should I increase Taq, dNTPs or primers amounts?

Thanks for your help.

-donisaid-

The difference in Tm between the two primers is 9 degrees. I think it's a bit too high. Maybe you should try with 64 degrees for the annealing. The remaining looks ok in my opinion

-dnafactory-

An annealing temp of 72 is way too high. Your lowest primer has a Tm of 59. I would try 57-58, but you might be able to get away with the low 60s.

-vasussci-

try annealing temp. around 60C.

how much do of template do u add to ur mix ? try 100ng

U could also try different Magnesium conc. , they can make a difference as well.

good luck !!!

-scolix-

I would try 58 or 60°C of alignment. 100 ng sound too much for me!!!!
I think 1 min 30 seg of time extension would be enough.

-aztecan princess-

anealing temperature is around 50 to 60max.
extention temperature 72 for 1.30 to 2 min is good.
you must optimise your anealing temperature.

-Najib-

The enzyme of LA taq produced by takara may have good efficiency. you can try.

-knewman-

if you can, I would try a Ta gradient from ~54 to 64

although I also think 9 degrees is awfully different. you may struggle to get specific product at a Ta low enough for the rev primer to bind

-aimikins-

What polymerase are you using? PFU needs a longer elongation time. Another good trick is to increase the concentration of MgCl2 to aroud 3mM. This sometimes makes the reaction work better. Especially if using cDNA as your template.

-CSULabrat-