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sagar on May 15 2009, 03:46 AM said:

T C on May 15 2009, 11:25 AM said:

Hey,

I just take Ice cold water and leave the ligations in this water, which is left at RT for 5-12 hrs. Its been working for the last 5 yrs for all kind of ligations. :)

Best,
TC

That sounds interesting. What is the company from which you use ligase ? I use ligase of fermentas. My vector and insert concentration is 40ng/ul.i use the universal calculation for ligation

insert concentration (ng/ul)=vector conc X( insert length/vector length)X (insert/vetor ratio)

I have tried a lot of times with 16C and less temperature but all in vain. Should I try enzyme from some other company?



try using NEB T4 DNA ligase under same conditions

-DRN-

Thats exactly what I use. :)
NEB ligase.


DRN on May 15 2009, 06:50 PM said:

try using NEB T4 DNA ligase under same conditions

-T C-

T C on May 15 2009, 10:25 AM said:

Hey,

I just take Ice cold water and leave the ligations in this water, which is left at RT for 5-12 hrs. Its been working for the last 5 yrs for all kind of ligations. :(

Best,
TC

hi
im still trying but i am very curious to know how does the ligation work following your procedure ?The temperature of the water shall increase slowly when you keep at room temperature, how does it help in ligation?
Do you give emphasis on the concentration of vector and insert used?

-sagar-

at low temp good for annealing ( but differ according to the restriction site, cohesive end with like AATT would anneal more readily at low temp) but u compromise the activity of ligase , the activity fo ligase would decrease at low temp.

At high temp it's the opposite.

-hanming86-

Hey,

Honestly, I am not sure how it works but if different kinds of ligation (blunt/sticky) and different enzymes require different temperatures, then these conditions are met. However like hanming86 points out, this is at the expense of ligase activity which follows a gaussian curve. But you don't really care as there is enough ligase in the mix.

Yes I do choose the concentration of vector and insert. I don't quantify it but generally take less vector and more insert and use just what is required. If you take more, you never get colonies due to crowding. I know I have a crude way of working as I run 3 ul on teh gel and visually decide how much of vector and insert to take but it works. :(

Best,
TC

sagar on May 17 2009, 03:31 AM said:

im still trying but i am very curious to know how does the ligation work following your procedure ?The temperature of the water shall increase slowly when you keep at room temperature, how does it help in ligation?
Do you give emphasis on the concentration of vector and insert used?

-T C-
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