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Hi,

I am trying to seperate the 35kb lambda DNA fragement in 0.5% agarose gel , it didn't work fine with QIAGEN kit . Can anyone suggest how to overcome the problem to get nearly 80% recovery or if I can do PCR for 35kb DNA fragement as template which enzyme I can use for the reaction. If anybody done it before pls suggest me.

Your responses are most appreaciated.


Thanks

With regards
Vishnu Reddy (Phd Student)
Viikki Biocampus
University of Helsinki

-Vishnu-

try electrolution, followed by butanol dehyrdation. You should be able to recover your large fragment without problem.

As for PCR of a 35kb fragment, it is doable but I would not advice it. Optimising the conditions for a PCR that long will take time, certainly longer then an afternoon doing an electrolution.

(You will need dialysis tubing with cut off point around 12kD to 14kD)

-perneseblue-

We purify 50 kb fragments with QIAEX II kit (for 40pb-50 kb) with very good recovery. I have done electroelution but I have better result with the kit.
Which kit are you using? QIAquick (this is for 100 pb-10 kb)?
If you are using QIAEXII:
Be sure wash solution has ethanol already.
Add 3v of Buffer QX1 plus 2v H20
Incubate 10 minutes at 50°C when eluting.

-aztecan princess-

Hi,


Thanks for your reply. What is the initial conc. of the DNA? and how much did u load in agarose wells? How did u run the agarose gel like in hours and volts? did anything in the wells?

Pls reply.

Thanks in advance.

With cheers
Vishnu













QUOTE (aztecan princess @ Mar 22 2007, 02:42 AM)
We purify 50 kb fragments with QIAEX II kit (for 40pb-50 kb) with very good recovery. I have done electroelution but I have better result with the kit.
Which kit are you using? QIAquick (this is for 100 pb-10 kb)?
If you are using QIAEXII:
Be sure wash solution has ethanol already.
Add 3v of Buffer QX1 plus 2v H20
Incubate 10 minutes at 50°C when eluting.

-Vishnu-

Hi,

Sorry to mention I used the same kit what u said.

Cheers
Vishnu

QUOTE (Vishnu @ Mar 22 2007, 08:38 PM)
Hi,


Thanks for your reply. What is the initial conc. of the DNA? and how much did u load in agarose wells? How did u run the agarose gel like in hours and volts? did anything in the wells?

Pls reply.

Thanks in advance.

With cheers
Vishnu













QUOTE (aztecan princess @ Mar 22 2007, 02:42 AM)
We purify 50 kb fragments with QIAEX II kit (for 40pb-50 kb) with very good recovery. I have done electroelution but I have better result with the kit.
Which kit are you using? QIAquick (this is for 100 pb-10 kb)?
If you are using QIAEXII:
Be sure wash solution has ethanol already.
Add 3v of Buffer QX1 plus 2v H20
Incubate 10 minutes at 50°C when eluting.

-Vishnu-

Thanks for your reply. What is the initial conc. of the DNA? and how much did u load in agarose wells? How did u run the agarose gel like in hours and volts? did anything in the wells?

Depending what I’m doing or how much DNA I have. To purify, I run from 50 ng to 1 ug per well (7 x 2 mm), some times I join 2 or 3 well in the same tube when purifying.
If I’m purifying, I run a 0.5-0.7-agarosa gel at 50-60 V per 1.5-2.5 h. If I need a nice gel for the picture or want to have a good bands separation, I run a 0.4 agarosa gel at 25 V for many hours (10-15 h).
If you add SDS to the loading buffer and or heat the samples before loading, you’ll have a better separation.

And about QIAEXII kit. Ones, we had problems because the ethanol in the wash solution was evaporated a lot.
Read very carefully the user manual, because there are some special indications for large fragments purification like heat at 50°C for 10 minutes when eluting. Check the pH of your elution buffer (TE, Tris, etc).


I hope it could be helpful to you!!
Good luck.

-aztecan princess-

QUOTE (aztecan princess @ Mar 23 2007, 09:22 PM)
Thanks for your reply. What is the initial conc. of the DNA? and how much did u load in agarose wells? How did u run the agarose gel like in hours and volts? did anything in the wells?

Depending what I’m doing or how much DNA I have. To purify, I run from 50 ng to 1 ug per well (7 x 2 mm), some times I join 2 or 3 well in the same tube when purifying.
If I’m purifying, I run a 0.5-0.7-agarosa gel at 50-60 V per 1.5-2.5 h. If I need a nice gel for the picture or want to have a good bands separation, I run a 0.4 agarosa gel at 25 V for many hours (10-15 h).
If you add SDS to the loading buffer and or heat the samples before loading, you’ll have a better separation.

And about QIAEXII kit. Ones, we had problems because the ethanol in the wash solution was evaporated a lot.
Read very carefully the user manual, because there are some special indications for large fragments purification like heat at 50°C for 10 minutes when eluting. Check the pH of your elution buffer (TE, Tris, etc).


I hope it could be helpful to you!!
Good luck.


Hello,
here is Sambo. how do u quantify d amt of PCR product ? is it by measuring OD or any other way? my pcr prdt is 1.5kb long and i am running it for 2hrs at 50-60v in 0.5xTB buffer. Is it gives better yield using lesser % of agarose when gel purifying pcr prdt by QUAGEN kit? Pls reply.

Cheers,
sambo

-sambo-