Agrobacterium tumefaciens 33970 mediated transformation of medicinal plant - Agrobacterium tumefaciens 33970 (Nov/14/2006 )
Res sir,
i have done genetic transformation of some medicinal plant with wild strain of Agrobacterium tumefaciens 33970.i have got the crown gall growth.
PCR confirmation of the insert 
RT-PCR confirmation of the insert 
DNA fingerprinting using AFLP technique 
DNA fingerprinting with RAPD and development of SCAR markers 
TAIL PCR for confirmation of the introduced DNA fragment 
RACE PCR for identification
please suggest the most suitable molecular techniques for the charecterization of transformed tissue.
please write in detail  bcoz i am a very new researcher of this field 
regards
rinki
I didnt get the idea of what u mean by characterization of the tissue 
did u mean that u have to confirm it is transformed ?
then that will depend on the insert gene and its product
for example if its a protease enzyme u can do assay tests , along with controls of course 
what si the plasmid that u used ? didnt it have any reporter gene ? or selectable marker?
u can use that to select the transformed tissue and confirm it
also doing pcr studies only confirms the gene presence, not the quanitity.
u will have to se how much ur transgene is epxressed too
try doing southern for dna--
northern for RNA --if ur looking for protein expression after transformation
and western for protein , 
hope it has helped u a bit
regards
did u mean that u have to confirm it is transformed ?
then that will depend on the insert gene and its product
for example if its a protease enzyme u can do assay tests , along with controls of course
what si the plasmid that u used ? didnt it have any reporter gene ? or selectable marker?
u can use that to select the transformed tissue and confirm it
also doing pcr studies only confirms the gene presence, not the quanitity.
u will have to se how much ur transgene is epxressed too
try doing southern for dna--
northern for RNA --if ur looking for protein expression after transformation
and western for protein ,
hope it has helped u a bit
regards
dear sir 
thanks for replying my e mail request .
i am getting the tumrous growth.
so i think there should be the integration of following genes
tms1 
tms2 
tmr 
nos nopaline synthase 
how should i design the primers .
what universal primers i can use.
i want send u some papers 
can i send them in the attachments.
please let me know 
regards
rinki
Dear rinki 
if ur checking for the genes in the tumour tissue
u can check either by pcr after DNA isolation or do southern 
for pcr u can design primers accroding to the gene sequence( more specific ) do u have the gene sequences? if u have the gene sequence of the Ti plasmid u can get the coding regions and then design from them both forward and reverse.
for southern , u can isolate the plasmid , try to find out a restriction site that cuts the genes and elute that region from the gel and use as probe , u can also use random oligo primers . u can try and search if they are available commerically , try for plant tissues , but the result will be more specific if u use homologous probes. 
for nopaline synthase u can also try RNA isolation and RT PCR or northern , so that u can see the level of the RNA and u can say that gene is there and functioning . 
also if u have antibody aganist nopaline synthase u can  get total protein extracted from the tissue and try western , if protein is there and detected by western u can say ur gene is there and functioning properly , do western first then if nothing happens do RNA or if u dont have antibody do RNA 
are u only studying the tumour cells or are u putting any other insert gene? if so finding its presence will be better 
send the papers in my PM or attachments here 
glad i could help somewhat though whati am doing is very different from ur doing , hence dont know how much i can help you
regards
laxmi
What you need might be confirmation of successful transformation I think, so you might use following:
Classic confirmation of transformation: Southern hybridization
Rapid identification of transformation: PCR
Or nopaline synthase assay (transgenic product)
Other might not necessary
since i am getting the tumorours growth so there is the expression of tms1 and tms2 (mimic cytokinin effect ) and tmr (mimic auxin growth).
i am getting positive nopaline assay ( paper electrophpresis of opine , petit et al 1983)
so i think i shold go for primer designing for nos gene.
i am not inserting any other gene .
if i go for southern / northern then i should design the probe .
i have designed the primer but not probe some times ago.
what aproach i should follow
pcr based or non pcr based .pleae suggest
i am sending the sequence
regards
rinki
Dear rinki
if ur checking for the genes in the tumour tissue
u can check either by pcr after DNA isolation or do southern
for pcr u can design primers accroding to the gene sequence( more specific ) do u have the gene sequences? if u have the gene sequence of the Ti plasmid u can get the coding regions and then design from them both forward and reverse.
for southern , u can isolate the plasmid , try to find out a restriction site that cuts the genes and elute that region from the gel and use as probe , u can also use random oligo primers . u can try and search if they are available commerically , try for plant tissues , but the result will be more specific if u use homologous probes.
for nopaline synthase u can also try RNA isolation and RT PCR or northern , so that u can see the level of the RNA and u can say that gene is there and functioning .
also if u have antibody aganist nopaline synthase u can get total protein extracted from the tissue and try western , if protein is there and detected by western u can say ur gene is there and functioning properly , do western first then if nothing happens do RNA or if u dont have antibody do RNA
are u only studying the tumour cells or are u putting any other insert gene? if so finding its presence will be better
send the papers in my PM or attachments here
glad i could help somewhat though whati am doing is very different from ur doing , hence dont know how much i can help you
regards
laxmi
dear rinki 
both methods are good pcr and non-pcr based
pcr method is for quick confirmation
and southern is for quantifying how much of ur gene is there in the transformed tissue
if u have time and the resources do both 
i would suggest southern since as rye said its classic confirmation experiment 
if ur submitting this data for publishing or to others , southern result would be acceptable 
regards
laxmi
res mam , there is some problem regarding uploading the file through bioforum .
please can u send ur e mail id .
regards 
rinki 
both methods are good pcr and non-pcr based
pcr method is for quick confirmation
and southern is for quantifying how much of ur gene is there in the transformed tissue
if u have time and the resources do both
i would suggest southern since as rye said its classic confirmation experiment
if ur submitting this data for publishing or to others , southern result would be acceptable
regards
laxmi
