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About stratagene's Helper-free system - (Aug/31/2006 )

do any guys here use stratagene's helper-free system?
I use all of its plasmid: pAAV-MCS(EGFP was clone in the MCS),pAAV-RC, pHelper.
The only difference is the package cell, i use HEK293 instead of the recommended AAV293.
My transfection is successful, but my 4 times of transduction all failed.
I strictly stick to the protocol of the manufacturer.
An odd phenomenon is, when i view the 48hr-post-transduction cells under a fluorescent microscope, none of the cells could be seen green fluorescence, but a strong green background can be seen, after i change the supernatant to fresh DMEM, the strong green background turned very weak or totally dark.
I don't know why, Who can explain and troubleshooting for me? thanks!!

-Bradley-

use the AAV293 cells for virus production. u will get 10x more virus with that than with the normal HEK293.

What do u mean by "my 4 times of transduction all failed". Do u mean that after infecting with the virus, u dont c any green fluorescent cells?

AAV takes longer than other viruses to express so give it more than 48hrs unless u r using AAV-1 serotype. Also do ur cells express the right receptor for AAV and also the right promoter. These can make differences in the AAV.

Which serotype r u using ? 2 ?

-scolix-

QUOTE (scolix @ Sep 1 2006, 02:03 AM)
use the AAV293 cells for virus production. u will get 10x more virus with that than with the normal HEK293.

What do u mean by "my 4 times of transduction all failed". Do u mean that after infecting with the virus, u dont c any green fluorescent cells?

AAV takes longer than other viruses to express so give it more than 48hrs unless u r using AAV-1 serotype. Also do ur cells express the right receptor for AAV and also the right promoter. These can make differences in the AAV.

Which serotype r u using ? 2 ?

smile.gif Thanks a lot! They are very valuable information.
yes i mean i don't see any green fluorescent cells after infecting
i use 2.
Another question, how do you say "use the AAV293 cells for virus production. u will get 10x more virus with that than with the normal HEK293" Any evidence? your experience or literature claimation?
And I wonder how virus show under a fluorescent microscope if they express the EGFP protein.
Thanks

-Bradley-

We used to make AAV in our lab. And the titres increased when we switched from 293 to AAV 293 that stratagene provided.

under microscope, a infected cell will glow green if GFP is present. Its notm uch different than after transfection (the intensity might b lower with viral infected ones compared to transient transfection)

-scolix-

Thanks

-Bradley-